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DPRG: Beauty

Subject: DPRG: Beauty
From: S Sunder sunder at rocketmail.com
Date: Fri Jan 9 00:55:31 CST 1998

- ---Ron Blue <rcb5 at msn.com> wrote:
> Beauty is actually a special harmonic with a slight variation of an average
> calculated by ones experiences and is intimately related to truth or factual
> equivalent.

Yes, It is true that the pleasure and pain are related to 
some known experiences. Beauty is one of that. If the sensed
information is too new then it must be learnt first along
with its character and associations with other knowledge
may take place at that time, and then one can make meaning 
out of it in new related enviroment/s and that includes
an immediate response.

(* Take the case of a red rose and a yellow rose and a 
blue rose. Which one is more beautiful for you? Many will 
say yellow or blue. 

That is simply because of extra harmonics of color becomes 
an influncing factor. 

Color alone does not influence. 

See, you have all the quality of the rose common in both 
so the only deviation is the color. 

Now think of another man who has never seen a red rose but
has been a common knaoeledge of a blue or yellow rose. 

For him the red rose is more pleasing and beautiful. 

Here, beauty is subjective.

Beauty is not always in pleasure. It can also be in pain.

People enjoyed war/s even though many would have suffered
in the course. 

Another fact is about a mother giving birth to a child 
which is quite painful yet a very pleasing event. 

It is the association of the facts and perhaps those
fact which have little pain in them will be placed 
together and the resulting effect is the outcome of all 
such known facts along with the small amount of 
immediate sensed input/knowledge. *)

Subjective understanding is very common but you hardly
realise it

Shyam India

(* ...*) (C) 1998 Shyam Sunder Tiwari
         Permitted for free distribution.

> Kevin Ross:
> "Which is exactly why I chose the word Beautiful in the first place.
> 'factual
> equivalent' means has the same factual value."
> The following is related to the topic.  Ron Blue
> From COP theory at http://www.enticypress.com
> Reference: Langlois, Judith H. & Roggmann, Lori A. (1990, April 20).
> Ordinary is
> Beautiful. Science p 306(1).
> "It has been reported in the literature that an attractive face is
> really a face that is mathematically determined by a computer to be
> average (Langlois & Roggmann, 1990).  This means that for all face
> stimuli that we are exposed to we constantly compare the new face to a
> mathematic model of that average.  If the new face is highly
> correlated to our mental model or mental copy we respond to it in a
> positive way and state that the face is pleasing.  COP theory would
> say that all schemas, ideas, models, beliefs or theories are
> mathematically determined to be average and expressed as a gaussian
> memory wavelet by our experiences.  Just as a model airplane is made
> of parts our mental models or schemata are made up of mental parts.
> These parts are correlated to our mental models, mental copies, or
> representations and can be used to make other models.  Models can be
> grouped together to make more complex models or theories.  All models
> and parts are independent and connected at the same time.  Remember it
> is possible to write complex computer programs with only 255 numbers
> in a chip.  The numbers are the parts that can be assembled into
> models of reality.  People with learning difficulties may be missing
> key parts or processes for building the models necessary for the
> learning process.  Not all parts are necessary to recognize a model
> plane as a plane, but there are critical parts that are necessary.
> Habituation of a stimulus complex followed by the presentation of a
> new stimulus (key part) may help to establish the elements required
> for learning.  The brain is structured to compare new stimuli with old
> schemas.  If the stimuli is discrepant we focus our attention and
> create a new schema."
> >Ah, but while I (and no doubt many other Amateur Roboticists) would
> >agree, "Beauty" too, is in the eye of the beholder, and therefore more
> >subjective than factual. :-)
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> >

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