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[DPRG] Extinguishing the FireFighting candle

Subject: [DPRG] Extinguishing the FireFighting candle
From: Jeff Koenig jkoenig at airmail.net
Date: Sun Feb 3 22:35:29 CST 2002

The toy that you refer to is the infamous "Wham-O Air Blaster".

I never had one, but a friend did, and it was awesome.  It was a vortex
cannon that had a rubber membrane that required a good deal of effort to
pull back into the "cocked" position.

When you pulled the trigger, it belched forth a burst of air that travelled
for quite a distance.  It was especially good at annoying cats (NOTE: None
of the little furballs was ever injured - the Air Blaster was simply used
for ruffling their whiskers from the other side of the room).

I think they crop up from time to time on E-Bay.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Rodent <daweasel at swbell.net>
To: dprglist at dprg.org <dprglist at dprg.org>
Date: Sunday, February 03, 2002 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [DPRG] Extinguishing the FireFighting candle

They had a toy gun like that back in the 60's -- I think they banned it
because kids were sticking it up to their ear. It was the weapon carried by
the aliens in "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians."

You could do the same thing with a funnel and a sheet of rubber. Stretch the
rubber over the large end of the funnel. To "fire" it, draw the rubber back
a few inches and let go.

As far as the water goes, look into the mist and drip irrigation stuff at
Home Depot -- lots of little spray nozzles with different patterns.

What about a water balloon on an arm? Suspend it over the candle and pop it.

----- Original Message -----

> Directing the spray is the big problem with water as you can see.
> My concern with water is that you have to use a lot of it and have a
> hit to be effective.
> While it is allowed, it does cause a mess for the judges to clean up
> contestants.
> How about a "sonic" blast?
> I remember when I was in cub scouts, we took an old oatmeal container, cut
> dime size hole in the top. The rest was sealed. By flicking your finger on
> the bottom, the big bottom forced a burst if air out the small hole.  I
> wonder if something along that principle can be implemented.  Maybe with a
> speaker.  Seal one side to a cone and have a small opening that you point
> the flame.  Changing polarity of the speaker should make it travel the
> longest distance.  It may be enough to put out the candle.
> I don't know if it will work, but it is a brainstorming idea for something
> different.
> Kip
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clay Timmons" <ctimmons at cadence.com>
> To: <dprglist at dprg.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 4:35 PM
> Subject: [DPRG] Extinguishing the FireFighting candle
> >
> >
> >
> > Today I bench tested my idea for using a water sprayer
> > to extinguish the flame for my firefighting robot.
> > Why water?  Most, nearly all, robots in the competition
> > used a fan to blow out the flame. While this can work and
> > is allowed by the rules I've seen many problems with it.
> > Many robots blow so hard the flame is sideways but not out.
> > I thought water would be a surefire (pun intended) to put
> > out the flame out.
> >
> > First I tried a mini aerosol can of water (Hyrdrating mist
> > from flying first class on Aitalia airlines).  This would
> > not put out the candle at 6".  The mist is way to fine and
> > the beam to wide.  It just made the flame sizzle a bit.
> > I also tried a small plastic water spray bottle.  The kind
> > you pump with the trigger.  This bottle had two spray settings
> > wide and narrow.  Wide is about 30 degree beam.  While not
> > as fine of mist as the aerosol can it was still not effective
> > at putting out the flame.  On fine it just squirts out a
> > stream of water like a squirt gun.  This will kill the flame
> > but only with a direct hit.  In fact I had trouble re-lighting
> > it afterwords!
> >
> >
> > Why am I rambling on about all this.  I just wanted to
> > tap in the collective to get ideas for firefighting.
> >
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > -Clay Timmons-
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