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[DPRG] Re: SWARC at RoboRama (fwd)

Subject: [DPRG] Re: SWARC at RoboRama (fwd)
From: Dan Gates topazx2 at yahoo.com
Date: Sun Sep 14 21:03:00 CDT 2003

Ralph,
 Actually, what I was talking about can and already does happen. A
robot is equipt with a video camera and the remote opperator is equipt
with a monitor. The operator is only allowed to see what the robot (R/C
vehicle) see's. That would make R/C vehicles more like a robot
simulator in my book.
-Dan


--- rten at new.metronet.com wrote:
> After reading this, I realized it makes no sense. Make that
> mind-machine
> interface. Sorry about that!
> Ralph
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:44:07 -0500 (CDT)
> From: rten at new.metronet.com
> To: Dan Gates <topazx2 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: dprglist at dprg.org
> Subject: Re: [DPRG] Re: SWARC at RoboRama
> 
> It won't happen if and until a true machine-machine with two-way data
> flow
> is developed! 2025?
> Ralph
> 
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Dan Gates wrote:
> 
> >
> > >
> > > However, in can-can no autonomous robot could possibly beat a
> > > radio-controller can fetcher. All it would have to do at RoboRama
> is
> > > be
> > > able to move faster that SR04.
> >
> > So, to make it an even playing field make the R/C opperator drive
> his
> > "Robot" through the eyes of the device. At least then the opperator
> > wouldn't have a "God Like" advantage, it'd put the whole
> "simulation"
> > thing into perspective. That's why ROV's like the Mars Rover and
> the
> > Pyrimid crawler are considered robots.
> >  Now match man against machine and see who performs better. I would
> put
> > money on the Autonomous robot anytime over a manned ROV viewing
> through
> > the eyes of the machine.
> >
> > >
> > > In line following, sensors must find the line and follow the
> varying
> > > curves. Feedback to the operator would be complex at best. I
> > > seriously
> > > doubt any operator could begin to avoid wall contact. Human
> response
> > > time
> > > is perhaps 100-1000 slower that a microcontrolled autonomous
> device
> > > equipped with good sensors.
> > >
> >
> >  I would venture to say that if all R/C opperators had to control
> their
> > machine from the machines perspective, they'd all switch to
> automation
> > within weeks.
> >  In my opinion perspective is what defines an ROV from an R/C, and
> > ROV's are a huge step closer to true Robotics. (Note that I said
> "In my
> > Opinion").
> >
> > -Dan
> >
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