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[DPRG] Breadboards in high-speed apps

Subject: [DPRG] Breadboards in high-speed apps
From: Jeff Koenig koenig.jeff at gmail.com
Date: Wed Dec 3 09:27:04 CST 2008

Hi Ray,

For high-speed prototyping, forget the white plastic solderless
breadboards. They'll only cause grief.

There are some great hints toward the middle of this site:


And yes, stray capacitances are additive.  You just have to find ways
to minimize or eliminate them.

Happy Building,

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Ray Xu <rayxu at tx.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi, as I'm doing extensive research in high-speed devices and op amps, I
> came across that it is not a good idea to prototype high-speed devices on a
> breadboard because of stray capacitances (what I'm most worried) and
> high-resistances.  I have a breadboard from Jameco (model JE27), but the
> datasheet does not provide any capacitance information.  Later I did some
> more research into capacitances in breadboards, and I've found that (from
> various sources and other's experience) the capacitance range from 1pF to
> 30pF.  As for the phase-detecting part of my laser range finder, I'm afraid
> that this stray capacitance will distort the signal (especially since the
> pulse width will be more than/equal to 1 nanosecond).  The phase detecting
> portion will only be a THS3202 wired as a comparator.  To avoid the most
> stray capacitance, can I build this off the bread board (such as on those
> prototyping SMD boards), or is it possible I can not use the strips in the
> breadboard and just wire the pins directly to the other parts of the
> circuit?
> For the high-speed op amp, since I'm working with SMD and SOT packages, will
> the stray capacitance accumulate, or it won't change significantly over the
> circuit on time?  I will be using SMD adapters like these:
> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=33205CA-ND
> and http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=A724-ND
> .
> Thanks.
> Ray Xu.
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