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[DPRG]Wall-E -> 1GHZ computers laser rangefinding

Subject: [DPRG]Wall-E -> 1GHZ computers laser rangefinding
From: ray xu rayxu at tx.rr.com
Date: Thu Jul 24 15:17:27 CDT 2008

I will be modulating it at low frequency; like 1 or 2 kHz, but not below
70Hz.  I am also not sure that if the unwanted light is in the same
wavelength (I don't have a light meter); but I'm assuming there is because
the sun light is triggering my sensor.  

The sensor I'm using is a PNZ334; I noticed on my scope that it is a hybrid
of digital and analog.  Most of the time its either 5 volts or none; but if
a VERY tiny laser beam is detected, its somewhere in between.  

And yes, the difference between the sun's (or even my bedroom lamp) energy
vs. my laser's energy is very big. 

I am also not familiar about electronics filters, but I barely know them.  

Ray Xu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Maxon [mailto:kmaxon at qwest.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 7:19 PM
To: ray xu; dprglist at dprg.org
Subject: RE: [DPRG]Wall-E -> 1GHZ computers laser rangefinding


What frequency range are the laser and receiver pair.  In general this will
be a problem with most visible light laser systems as the sun (and many
other sources) put out energy across a large portion of the spectrum.   So
adding high-Q notch filter can help if the sensitivity of the receiver
extends beyond the frequency range of the signal to be sampled, however if
the interference is on the same frequency range as the signal to be
detected, then the problem is more complex and a simple optical filter *may*
not help.

In the paragraph above I use the word *may* not help as there are cases
where it can.   If the broad spectrum that is bleeding across the frequency
of interest is of a much lower amplitude than the signal returned to the
senor, then an optical filter can indeed help.   In this case an appropriate
optical filter can be used to drop the transmission of ALL frequencies
reaching the sensor.  This helps because all frequencies can be lowered to
the point where the undesired broad band noise no longer triggers or is
measurable by the sensor.

If the sensor has an analog output and modulation is the method of choice,
then an electronic filter *May* be of use.  The limiting issue here again
will be how much the returned signal stimulates the sensor vs how much the
background noise stimulates the sensor.  (SNR = Signal to Noise Ratio)  If
there is significant difference between the two, then an electronic band
pass filter and a modulated source will be able to detect the signal.  (This
of course assumes the sensor is not being used near saturation point,
otherwise both methods will be necessary (optical and electronic))...


-----Original Message-----
From: dprglist-bounces at dprg.org [mailto:dprglist-bounces at dprg.org]On
Behalf Of ray xu
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:48 PM
To: dprglist at dprg.org
Subject: RE: [DPRG]Wall-E -> 1GHZ computers laser rangefinding

My receiver is picking up ambient light.  Are there any ways to filter that
out?  Should I modulate my laser and put a bandpass filter on the receiver

Ray Xu
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Seattle Robotics group member
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