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[DPRG] Work with researchers?

Subject: [DPRG] Work with researchers?
From: A. Scientist angryscientist at gmail.com
Date: Wed Jan 6 16:40:27 CST 2010

I think if you attend a roborama (at least the 3 I have been to, and 2 that
sawtooth competed in) you will see that there is plenty of challenge for
competitors in the events we already do. If you take the event to the "next
level", I suspect you might be hard pressed to find an entry that will
complete the challenge (not to say that the people here aren't intelligent
enough to do it, I mean no insult whatsoever here) and that really takes
away from the fun in my opinion.

On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Rud Merriam <k5rud at arrl.net> wrote:

> Which brings up a point that concerns me with hobby robotics: when are we
> going to go beyond PID, odometry, etc?
> Doing the Square Dance or line following is fine but, to be blunt, they are
> dead-ends. RoboMagellan is an open ended problem but to often the approach
> used is a dead-end. We know you can get a robot to go from point A to point
> B if it knows the coordinates. It can even avoid some obstacles placed in
> the direct path. But "find the orange cone somewhere NE of here and no more
> the 150 feet away" is more challenging because it eliminates the
> dead-reckoning odometry solution.
> In the next week or so I'll be updating my blog (you can get to it through
> the signature URL) with some points on robotics. Specifically what I'm
> getting together with my Create as a base. The challenge will be along the
> lines of (1) explore and learn my house using vision and (2) be able to
> directly navigate from one part of the house to the other without bumping
> into things. In other words, respond to a statement like "Go to the master
> bathroom" from wherever it is in the house.
> Don't get me wrong. I applaud anyone who develops or works with a platform
> to make it do anything. My first efforts with my Create were simply to
> duplicate the wandering software that it has built into it. It was great
> fun
> and educational.
>  - 73 -
> Rud Merriam K5RUD
> ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX
> http://mysticlakesoftware.com/
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Randy M. Dumse [mailto:rmd at newmicros.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 3:50 PM
> > To: 'Redouane Boumghar'; dprglist at dprg.org
> > Subject: RE: [DPRG] Work with researchers?
> >
> > > The problem is that the core system (which makes the
> > > wheels turn at a given speed for example) is
> > > integrated by these engineers and techs but
> > > we miss them.. they are too few to handle the heavy duty.
> >
> > This is almost a perfect example of the idea I am discussing.
> > Many of us as hobbiest have done several such systems, and we
> > have well handled issues of wheel turning and PID control.
> > But we don't have much idea what to do beyond those basics,
> > and would enjoy doing the base for someone else to move
> > forward on, if only we could be involved.
> >
> >
> > Randy
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