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[DPRG] DARPA Grand Challenge

Subject: [DPRG] DARPA Grand Challenge
From: ed at okerson.com ed at okerson.com
Date: Wed Dec 18 16:21:26 CST 2013

And when they are 100% self sufficient, they won't need us anymore......

Ed

> well, it definitely won't happen with that attitude! robots are only as
> functional & versatile as the engineers that create them. 95% of all the
> robots on earth are useless, even the roomba. it doesn't save time or
> effort. still have to clean it out and remove the hair from the rollers.
> all the roomba does is exchange the carpet cleaning chore for the roomba
> cleaning chore. until robots are designed to be 100% self sufficient, they
> will not be very effective, useful or feasible.
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> On Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:46 AM, Andrew Lynch <lyncas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Interesting discussion !   We will see which of the 18 teams make it to
> the finals in Florida.  
>
> The CMU robot is not quite humanoid but more chimp.  
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> http://robohub.org/the-400-lb-chimp-in-the-room-cmus-tartan-rescue-team-prepares-for-the-drc/
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> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:17 AM, David P. Anderson <davida at smu.edu>
> wrote:
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> Does anyone else think this is silly?   I'm not a fan of humanoid
>>robots, other than as entertainment, which is perhaps what this is
>>supposed to be.  I don't think a human body is useful for robotics
>>without a human brain to control it.  And we aren't there and won't be
>>there for a long time, maybe never.
>>
>><http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/zero-moment/humanoids-are-here-walking-climbing-driving-robots-drc>
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>>As we've discussed before, why have a humanoid robot open the door? Why
>>not just have the door open itself?  (see your  local grocery store).
>>Why have a humanoid robot drive the car?  Isn't it easier just to have
>>the car drive itself?  (See Google, Honda, etc).   I don't see this as
>>the future of robotics.  Maybe the future of Hollywood and trade shows.
>>I don't see these machines ever being as useful as, say,  a Roomba.
>>
>>Steve, remember how the Aibo was going to replace real dogs for old
>>people so they didn't have to feed and cleanup after them, but they
>>would otherwise have all the joy and affection of a real puppy dog?
>>Didn't happen.   I wonder why?   These robots will probably end up in a
>>museum somewhere, where they will never be turned on to show that they
>>actually don't work and can't do anything, and folks will imagine, based
>>on their humanoid appearance, all the cool things they must have been
>>able to do.
>>
>>Here's a good rule I've found useful for myself:  be suspicious of any
>>robot article who's webpage does not include any video.  Without it,
>>outrageous claims are easy to make,  and hard to verify. Especially by
>>journalists caught up in the excitement.   Just saying.
>>
>>
>>cheers,
>>dpa
>>
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