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[DPRG] FAA and Commercial Drones

Subject: [DPRG] FAA and Commercial Drones
From: Rud Merriam k5rud at arrl.net
Date: Sat Jan 11 16:14:17 CST 2014

I suspect there is not a lot of difference for this type of footage 
since the operator is probably in visual range of the drone. Much as 
with your flying events the operator can see if something else is 
entering the airspace. The problem with manual drones comes when they 
are out of range of the operator and cannot see the helicopter 
approaching at 100s of miles per hour...and the helicopter pilot cannot 
see the miniscule drone. That is also the case with autonomous drones - 
incomplete situational awareness.

I expect the FAA is working to avoid a lot of case-by-case discussions 
by simply saying "NO!" now.

There is also the FCC involved since the frequency space also needs to 
be deconflicted. Spread spectrum may prevent an evil operator from 
taking over another drone but it cannot prevent loss of control. Even if 
the operator retains control what if the video link is lost because of 

Technically the amateurs are not, unfortunately, regulated, yet. I 
spotted something but cannot provide a reference about the AMA signing 
an agreement with the FAA on drones.

I stumbled on this researching accelerometer and gyroscope fusion for my 
SRR rovers.

- 73 -
*Rud Merriam K5RUD
* /Mystic Lake Software <http://mysticlakesoftware.com/>

On 1/11/2014 3:58 PM, David P. Anderson wrote:
> Interesting find, Rud.
> I was wondering what the difference is between this video footage, 
> shot by a remotely operated drone, and video footage shot from 
> helicopters, which we see on TV all the time.
> I think the last line in the article, to the effect that it can't be 
> allowed because there are no rules in place, makes sense.
> I'm a card-carrying member of the AMA and fly helicopters at AMA 
> sanctioned fields and events.  We have LOTS of "rules in place" that 
> are required for safety, with the enforcement proviso that your AMA 
> liability insurance will not cover any mishaps if you were not 
> following the rules.   That, and the other flyers yelling at you, form 
> a pretty strong incentive to follow the rules.
> I haven't observed amateur drone and quad-copter pilots following ANY 
> rules at all.   From where I sit, that looks awfully dangerous.   
> Especially flying around crowds, flying OVER crowds of people, taking 
> off and landing in unsecured areas, etc, etc.  Risky business.
> So, bring on the rules!   I think they are sorely needed.  The AMA 
> might be a good place to start.  They've been thinking about these 
> problems for decades.
> best
> dpa
> On 01/11/2014 02:55 PM, Rud Merriam wrote:
>> We had a discussion following the Amazon drone announcement. The FAA 
>> responds to commercial usage of drones in no uncertain terms - not legal.
>> http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/235239/faa-on-drone-recordings-by-journalists-there-is-no-gray-area/
>> -- 
>> - 73 -
>> *Rud Merriam K5RUD
>> * /Mystic Lake Software <http://mysticlakesoftware.com/>
>> /
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